Lisée préférerait que les candidats à la mairie de Montréal taisent leur opinion sur la Charte | Le Devoir

Not a good sign when the Minister responsible for Montreal, Jean-François Lisée, wants the mayoral candidates and other Montreal politicians to be quiet on the proposed Charter. Likely this will only invite more comment, and draw further attention to opposition to the Charter. While it may play well in the hinterland, we will see the overall impact over the next month or so.

Lisée préférerait que les candidats à la mairie de Montréal taisent leur opinion sur la Charte | Le Devoir.

PQ unhappy its values charter has become an issue in Montreal mayoral election

Hijab is what Marois really wants to banish

Interesting insights from Charles Taylor, on how the model of laicisme ouverte was a tactical move to find a compromise that should work with the population. A valid call, even if the fundamentals are still questionable:

Sure enough, Taylor conceded in our latest phone conversation that the recommendation was a political compromise, meant as “a prophylactic.”

He revealed: “We did struggle over that for weeks.

“We didn’t have any real concern that wearing a religious symbol would make someone an unreliable official. It was never that we mistrusted the judgment of a kippa-wearing judge.

“Rather, we feared that the idea would run into stiff resistance. We wondered, ‘Is the population ready for this?’

“We looked at it from the point of the accused — would they find it traumatic (to be judged by someone visibly non-Christian)?

“So, we said, ‘Let’s go for this limited recommendation now, and at a later date when the population feels confident enough with diversity, we can loosen the whole thing.’

“We were recommending it as a prophylactic. It was a scaling down, so that it might provide a way out.”

Hijab is what Marois really wants to banish: Siddiqui | Toronto Star.

And Québec solidaire, the small left-wing party, notes that an election is not the best means to have a discussion on the proposed Charter, human rights, and accommodation:

Charte des valeurs – Une question trop complexe pour être un enjeu électoral, croit QS

Québec songe à retirer le crucifix de l’Assemblée nationale

Interesting. Rather than exploring the opening by former premiers Parizeau, Bouchard and Landry, we come back to the crucifix in the National Assembly. Likely a trial balloon. But no right for institutions or municipalities to have exemptions from the proposed Charter, save for a transition period.

Québec songe à retirer le crucifix de l’Assemblée nationale | Denis Lessard | Politique québécoise.

El laïcisme del Quebec i altres dubtes | Marc Bassets

My first international interview in the Catalan newspaper, La Vanguardia. Given the similarities between some of the identity issues in Catalonia and Quebec, a fair degree of interest in Quebec debates. One of my quotes:

Para Griffith, autor de un ensayo y un blog sobre el multiculturalismo, los signos religiosos deben permitirse “mientras no interfieran en las obligaciones del servidor público. Voy a un hospital. La enfermera me saca sangre. Lleva hiyab. ¿Y qué?”, dice. Impedir a alguien trabajar para el Estado y practicar su fe “excluye y ofrece a las personas menos oportunidades”.

El laïcisme del Quebec i altres dubtes | Marc Bassets.

Charter all part of the Péquistes’ cynical plan

Andrew Cohen on the proposed Charter. While I agree on his overall assessment on the cynicism of the PQ for playing identity politics, I am not sure that all is working out as well as he portrays for the PQ. Yes, the debate has been largely between Montreal and the hinterland (but Quebec city and Sherbrooke will likely also have reserves), the divisions among the sovereignist ranks, and the strong opposition from the healthcare sector among others make this strategy less of a slam dunk than I think the PQ anticipated. We shall see.

The Jews, Muslims, immigrants and anyone else with eyes see the Quebec Charter of Values for what it is: the sad, fearful cry of a tribal society led by well-tailored cynics.

Charter all part of the Péquistes’ cynical plan.

Le dérapage intégriste de Charles Taylor | Le Devoir

This opinion piece suggests that  UN and international organization staff have more of a common mindset – secularism – than Canadian and other societies. The international organization elite may be more uniform than they think. Interesting.

Not to mention the unique focus on Muslim fundamentalism, not other religions.

Le dérapage intégriste de Charles Taylor | Le Devoir.

Why Ottawa’s right to procrastinate on the values charter – The Globe and Mail

Tom Flanagan on the Quebec values charter and why one needs to let the internal QC debate take its course, which will likely end up reasonably. A stronger position in favour of provincial, rather than individual rights than many.

Given the tenor of QC debates to date, and just how poorly the proposed Charter has been received, he is largely right, although it was necessary for all federal politicians to lay down some markers.

Why Ottawa’s right to procrastinate on the values charter – The Globe and Mail.

Charter of Values Round-Up

And then there were three – three former premiers joined in their critique of the proposed Charter (and Landry has changed from his initial support), in addition to former Prime Minister Chrétien, and another federal minister, Christian Paradis, unlike Denis Lebel, reinforces the government’s line against the Charter:

Bernard Landry joins Bouchard, Parizeau in charter critique – Montreal – CBC News.

Jean Chrétien weighs in on Charter of Quebec Values

La charte est un message hostile aux immigrants, selon Paradis

Mixed signals from the PQ government on how they will, if they will, respond to this strong political signal to back down, starting with Premier Marois who signals an opening but her Minister, Bernard Drainville, does not:

Charte des valeurs: Marois attentive à l’appel de Bouchard et Parizeau

Drainville garde le cap sur la Charte en dépit des dissensions

Some commentary advising the PQ government to follow the advice of the former premiers and go for the Bouchard-Tayor model of laïcité ouverte, and other commentary arguing for a broader debate, situated outside political and electoral considerations:

La voie de la raison

Charte des valeurs québécoises – Alors, que fait-on?

La Charte de l’inconfort collectif

And a piece by Stéphane Dion, former Liberal Cabinet Minister and Leader, on the difference between showing political allegiance and religious faith for public servants:

Signes politiques, signes religieux : une dangereuse analogie

A reminder from a former professor of Egyptian origin, Nadia Alexan, who has experience with fundamentalists, that our openness creates space for fundamentalists. One of the risks in an open, democratic society, but one that applies to all religions, not just Islam. Singling out one religion without acknowledging integration-related issues for the fundamentalist strains of all religions, and recognizing the balance between religious and other freedoms, is not tenable:

Arrêtons de dorloter l’intégrisme

And lastly, while I think Andrew Coyne goes too far in his portrayal of the internal contradictions of the PQ (and the Bloc), he does have a point of the challenge for a society like Quebec to define what “nous” means without it being reduced to Québécois de pure laine, or ethnicity.

There were significant efforts to enlarge the definition of “nous” to include the “cultural communities” and interculturalisme, the Quebec subtle variant of multiculturalism, does have an inclusive element:

There is a basic, unresolvable incompatibility between a pluralist, open, civic nationalism and a nationalism devoted to the interests of a particular ethnocultural group. No amount of careful obsequies can paper this over. Once you have freed yourself from the obligation, incumbent on governments in every other liberal state, to govern on behalf of all your citizens equally — once you have decided, frankly and unashamedly, to speak of and for “nous” — you have made your choice. If the province’s ethnic minorities have failed to respond to the PQ’s entreaties, that may explain why. If, after all, it were really about an inclusive nationalism, with equality for all, if that were the society you were trying to create, what need would there be to separate?

Péquistes, then, can be divided into two groups. Those who have persuaded themselves there is no contradiction, that they can be both inclusive and exclusive at the same time. And those who have shed the illusion.

Don’t be fooled, the Parti Québécois has never been inclusive

Jacques Parizeau, former PQ premier, slams charter of values

The big news yesterday was not only that Jacques Parizeau, former PQ premier and famous for blaming the defeat of the 1995 referendum on Quebec independence on “money and ethnic votes” but how carefully choreographed it was, to maximize public attention. Lot’s of commentary:

Jacques Parizeau, former PQ premier, slams charter of values – Montreal – CBC News.

PQ stung by Jacques Parizeau’s rebuke of values charter: Hébert

Charte des valeurs – Parizeau a parlé

Jacques Parizeau, voice of reason (Yes, you read that right)

Jacques Parizeau, voice of reason, Tasha Kheiriddin

And another former premier, Lucien Bouchard, who led the “yes” forces during the 1995 referendum (he was much more popular than Parizeau), supports Parizeau’s comments and comes back to the Bouchard-Taylor laicité ouverte (he is also the brother of Gérard). Worth reading:

Charte: «Le gouvernement peut frapper un coup de circuit!»

France’s ‘beautiful notion’ of secularism is not a model for Quebec – The Globe and Mail

Jack Jedwab of the Association of Canadian Studies on the empirical evidence on France’s secular model. Confirms other analysis, news reports, and general knowledge:

Unfortunately for Ms. Marois and Mr. Moscovici, the evidence on the French model points to a very different conclusion. Surveys conducted in June, 2012, by Eurobarometer (the polling arm of the European Commission) put France on top of the list amongst the 27 countries of the European Union as regards the extent to which its own population feel there is discrimination in society based on religion or beliefs. Two in three French citizens surveyed see such discrimination as widespread compared with half of the U.K. population. As regards discrimination outside the workplace on the basis of religion or beliefs France (55 per cent) records the highest percentage in the EU of people feeling it is widespread. France doesn’t do much better around the perception of ethnic discrimination outside the workplace with yet another EU record 76 per cent seeing it as widespread.

France’s ‘beautiful notion’ of secularism is not a model for Quebec – The Globe and Mail.