Charter fuels stereotyping, tension: poll

More on the Charter as the hearings begin. First, the latest poll showing the same divisions of support between francophones and non-francophones. More interesting is the impact of the proposed Charter:

Fifty-three per cent of people polled, including 49 per cent of francophones and 69 per cent of people from other linguistic groups — said they believed relations between communities have already deteriorated since the debate over the charter of values began.

Forty-nine per cent of people polled said they believe adoption of the charter will give rise to civil disobedience in public institutions.

Roughly half of those polled said they believe there has already been an increase in stereotyping against religious minorities. Fifty-seven per cent of people polled — including 80 per cent of non-francophones — said they believe Quebec’s Jews, Muslims and Sikhs should have an equal say to other groups in discussions about the charter.

Support for the charter was higher among manual labourers, retired people and people with incomes of $60,000 to $100,000 than it was for young adults, students and homemakers.

Charter fuels stereotyping, tension: poll.

A good overview of organizations in favour and opposing the Charter, and the related politics and political strategy by Chantal Hébert of The Star:

Get ready for Quebec values charter debate replay: Hébert

La démagogie au pouvoir | Gérard Bouchard

The strongest condemnation of the Quebec Charter of Values to date, by Gérard Bouchard. Says it all:

Pour ce qui est de la connaissance du terrain, on s’en remet aux perceptions courantes plutôt qu’aux études rigoureuses. En matière de suppression des droits, on s’appuie sur le précédent créé par trois ou quatre pays ou régions d’Europe en faisant abstraction de toutes les démocraties du monde qui ont choisi de respecter les libertés, y compris en Europe même. Et on évite soigneusement de parler des traités de droit internationaux auxquels le Québec est assujetti.

Il fallait que tout cela survienne dans le grand parti que fut celui de René Lévesque, si soucieux des droits et de la démocratie, si attaché à la transparence, et dont l’héritage a été fidèlement perpétué par des générations de politiciens et politiciennes, jusqu’à ce qu’il soit perverti par nos actuels dirigeants. C’est triste.

La démagogie au pouvoir | Gérard Bouchard | Votre opinion.

An illustration of demagoguery in action see this op-ed by Jean-François Lisée, Quebec minister for the Montreal area and for international affairs. As always, striking that the model referred to is always European, rather than North American, despite Europe largely failing at integration, and the usual caricature of multiculturalism:

Quebec’s Latest Stand

As well as a further illustration of the absence of evidence-based policy and program work, no studies on the potential impact on the education sector:

Charte: Québec ignore l’avis d’un comité du milieu de l’éducation

Freedom of conscience and the Charter of Quebec Values » Institute for Research on Public Policy

Good piece by Jocelyn Maclure of Université de Laval on the Charter and freedom of conscience:

The analogy with political symbols does not succeed in justifying restrictions on freedom of religion or equal access to job opportunities in the public and parapublic sectors. Our civil and political rights safeguard our basic political interests, while freedom of conscience and religion protects the religious and secular convictions and commitments that endow human life with meaning. We can rightly be proud that our democratic institutions properly uphold both these rights and freedoms.

Freedom of conscience and the Charter of Quebec Values » Institute for Research on Public Policy.

Apologie de la charte autour d’une dinde | Le Devoir

While this is fairly standard stuff for political parties to do for controversial initiatives, the responses indicate just how much the PQ government is digging in to the identity politics behind the Charter:

De même, si la parenté s’inquiète parce qu’on « passe pour des racistes partout dans le monde », il serait bien de répondre que « c’est faux ! », conseille le PQ. « Nous sommes loin d’être les premiers à vouloir affirmer la séparation des religions et de l’État », dit-on en parlant des cas de la France, de la Belgique et de l’Allemagne.

On propose aussi des réponses possibles si quelqu’un dit que « la charte, ça fait juste diviser tout le monde ». Le PQ suggère de répondre qu’au « moment de son adoption, la loi 101 a été décriée par plusieurs » et qu’elle fait aujourd’hui objet d’un consensus. La « charte des valeurs québécoises [le premier nom de ce qui est devenu la « Charte affirmant les valeurs de laïcité et de neutralité religieuse de l’État ainsi que d’égalité entre les femmes et les hommes et encadrant les demandes d’accommodement »] s’inspire de la même logique », dit-on.

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Since it was unveiled by the PQ government of Pauline Marois this year, the Charter has proven so divisive that most Quebec families would probably choose to talk about anything else at festive gatherings. As a general rule, politics and religion are off the table at Christmastime.

However, the party thought it would be a good idea to arm its members with ready arguments in case the hot topic comes up. Sylvain Tanguay, the director general of the PQ, said in an interview on Tuesday that the holiday guide was emailed to more than 10,000 members last Friday.

“It’s simply a synthesis of all the arguments and questions that came up during the fall,” Mr. Tanguay said. He referred to it as an end-of-year “memory aid” and said it was penned by the party’s communications team in Montreal.

The guide’s talking points unwittingly expose all the targets of the Charter’s many critics. For example, the document says that if a family member asks: “Why ban religious signs for all State employees?” the respondent should say that civil servants are already prevented from displaying their political views on the job (it does not mention that political allegiances are a choice, unlike religious affiliations).

Apologie de la charte autour d’une dinde | Le Devoir.

PQ releases self-help holiday guide to defending Quebec values charter

Talking points for the PQ faithful

The hearings on the Charter start 14 January with some 200 submissions, meaning that the hearings will last up to three months. It will be interesting to see how the balance of views compares to the Bouchard-Taylor Commission, with the additional difference that it will be the PQ government pressing ahead rather than independent commissioners writing a report:

Charte: au moins 200 heures d’audiences

Le vrai débat sur la laïcité débutera le 14 janvier | Politique québécoise

And from the academics, 60 professors, including many of the leading experts on diversity-related issues (e.g., Jocelyn Maclure, Daniel Weinstock). Of particular interest is the response to Roger Tassé, one of the federal officials involved in the drafting of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

« Je [Sébastien Grammond] comprends que Roger Tassé puisse dire que les tribunaux ont interprété la Charte différemment de ce qu’il avait pensé à l’époque. Mais un texte juridique, c’est comme un texte littéraire : une fois qu’il est écrit, l’auteur en perd le contrôle », ajoute le professeur.

Soixante professeurs contre la Charte

Liberals’ Quebec charter would combat religious extremism, Couillard says

The Liberal Party of Quebec response to the Charter are unspecified initiatives to combat religious extremism. Will be interesting to see the details:

“To those who come here and take advantage of our freedoms and democracy to then attack them and ultimately destroy them, we are saying loud and clear: ‘You are not welcome here, we will fight you, we will go after you,’ ” Mr. Couillard said …

« À ceux qui viennent chez nous pour profiter de nos libertés et de notre démocratie pour ensuite s’y attaquer et ultimement les détruire, nous disons haut et fort : vous n’êtes pas les bienvenus chez nous, nous vous combattrons, nous vous poursuivrons sans relâche. »

Liberals’ Quebec charter would combat religious extremism, Couillard says – The Globe and Mail.

Couillard veut débarrasser le Québec des intégristes religieux | Le Devoir

Maria Mourani: «Je ne suis plus indépendantiste»

Nice to have some recognition of the value of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Quebec from the former Bloc québécois MP Maria Mourani, who quit the Bloc over their support for the proposed Quebec Charter of Values:

« J’en suis arrivée à la conclusion que mon appartenance au Canada, avec notamment la Charte canadienne des droits et libertés, protège mieux l’identité québécoise de toutes les citoyennes et de tous les citoyens du Québec, écrit-elle dans une lettre. Je ne suis plus indépendantiste. »

Maria Mourani: «Je ne suis plus indépendantiste» | MARTIN CROTEAU | Politique canadienne.

Ex-Bloc MP Maria Mourani says she is no longer a sovereigntist – Politics – CBC News

French President Hollande tells Marois secularism eases social tensions

No surprise, as Quebec has always been influenced by French debates on accommodation and laicité, notwithstanding the very different histories and context of Quebec and France. France has had similar regulations to the proposed Charter since 2004 and there is ongoing debate over their effectiveness, not to mention the overall weakness of France’s integration of other communities, particularly Muslims.

French President Hollande tells Marois secularism eases social tensions – Need to know – Macleans.ca.

Hollande vante la laïcité proposée par Marois

Laïcité – Pauline Marois et Jean-Marc Ayrault sont sur la même longueur d’onde and other Charter-related articles

No surprise given that elements in Quebec have always been inspired by French cartesian approaches to integration issues, without taking into account the very different history and mix of immigration in Quebec compared to France, or the extremely poor French record on integration and participation of minority communities:

« Les propos de Jean-Marc Ayrault sont de la musique à mes oreilles, a déclaré la première ministre. Vous connaissez très bien notre point de vue. Ce sont les mêmes mots que j’ai utilisés à l’Assemblée nationale du Québec entre autres où j’ai parlé justement du vouloir vivre ensemble […]. Nous pensons qu’il faut que les règles soient claires et c’est essentiellement ce que nous faisons avec notre charte des valeurs affirmant la laïcité du Québec et de ses institutions. »

The visit took place the same day as the publication of a government-appointed working group report arguing for a more inclusive, open approach to integration, including rolling back some of the prohibitions of the hijab and more recognition of minority cultures . Quickly repudiated by the French government and opposition politicians alike, given the engrained nature of  French laïcité:

Laïcité – Pauline Marois et Jean-Marc Ayrault sont sur la même longueur d’onde | Le Devoir.

La laïcité française, une «inspiration» pour Marois | PAUL JOURNET | Politique québécoise

France urged to end ban on Muslim headscarves in schools amid fears over growing racism

And lastly, a couple of opinion pieces, the first noting the similarities and differences between Canada and Quebec on Christmas and religion (not that significant, much bigger differences between Canada and the US), the  second, by a self-styled “jeune rebel” uses Hitchens to make his arguments for the charter, with a dogmatic approach against religion:

Le Québec toujours habité par la foi  | MATHIEU PERREAULT | National

Hitchens appuierait le projet de loi 60 | Le Devoir

La charte va trop loin, selon la CSN

More criticism of the Quebec charter, by another of the unions, advocating and expanded version of Bouchard-Taylor (limited to officials in position of authority) by adding teachers. The union also favours maintaining the rights of existing officials that would be affected by the charter, creating two classes of officials. Hardly workable, but then so neither is the Charter.

La charte va trop loin, selon la CSN | Le Devoir.

PQ touts Quebec’s ‘decanadianization,’ citing new poll’s findings

While there is some validity to increased mutual indifference between Quebec and the rest of Canada, exacerbated by a government overwhelmingly based in English Canada and with policies less attuned to Quebec public opinion, the examples of specific policies cited – opposition to the Quebec values charter, insistence on a toll to pay for a new bridge in Montreal – are less convincing.

The proposed charter has considerable opposition within Quebec, and a toll bridge to replace one that is at risk of falling apart, hardly make a strong case for “decanadianization”. The Canadian constitution is relatively decentralized with most public services being delivered by the provinces,  including education, thus strengthening regional identities.

PQ touts Quebec’s ‘decanadianization,’ citing new poll’s findings – The Globe and Mail.

Lisée: «le Canada devient de plus en plus un corps étranger» au Québec | Martin Ouellet | Politique