Cogeco CEO Louis Audet says Quebec’s proposed values charter harmful to economy

From an economic and business perspective:

Audet is one of the few business leaders in Quebec who have spoken out against such a charter. A recent poll has found that 60 per cent of Quebecers supported the secular charter, which would forbid public employees from wearing visible religious symbols including hijabs, turbans, kippas and larger-than-average crucifixes.

“I can’t help but think that the charter of Quebec values’ bill is a bill that’s harmful to our economy, and ultimately, our ability to pay for social programs that our elected members will want to favour, regardless of which party is in power,” he told the Montreal Chamber of Commerce.

But Premier Pauline Marois has said the charter doesn’t worry foreign investors who might be interested in setting up shop in Quebec and recently announced in London that two companies would be heading to Montreal to do business…..

Local chamber of commerce president and CEO Michel Leblanc said his organization is also against the values charter.

“It’s creating the impression that Quebec is a closed society to immigrants,” he said. “We want to attract immigrants whether it’s for work or investment. If we can’t attract immigrants because of the charter, it’s going to harm Quebec’s economy.”

Cogeco CEO Louis Audet says Quebec’s proposed values charter harmful to economy – Need to know – Macleans.ca.

La charte menacerait l’économie

Charte – Poursuivre sur le chemin de la laïcité équilibrée | Le Devoir

Good commentary by Georges Leroux (UQAM) and Jocelyn Maclure (Université de Montréal) on the testimony of Guy Rocher (a well-known Quebec sociologist and former Quebec deputy minister):

Avec Guy Rocher, nous abordons la question du rapport entre religion et pouvoir public en privilégiant une « attitude prospective ». La société québécoise continuera à se diversifier. Nous croyons qu’une laïcité équilibrée est mieux en mesure de favoriser la participation pleine et entière des citoyens de tous les horizons à nos institutions publiques. Dire aujourd’hui à un étudiant au secondaire, au cégep ou à l’université qu’il ne pourra pas devenir enseignant, travailleur social, fonctionnaire, médecin ou juriste de l’État car il porte un signe religieux visible risque de favoriser le ressentiment et la désaffection. Ce n’est pas la « vision d’avenir » que nous souhaitons pour le Québec.

En rappelant que l’accélération de la laïcisation de l’État pendant la Révolution tranquille a fait du Québec une société plus juste et harmonieuse, Guy Rocher donne la mesure des exigences du présent. Nous devons exprimer notre reconnaissance à ceux qui, comme lui, ont rendu cette mutation sociale possible. La laïcité de l’État québécois est un acquis précieux qu’il est possible de préserver sans restreindre les droits de citoyens qui sont déjà sous-représentés dans les organismes publics.

Charte – Poursuivre sur le chemin de la laïcité équilibrée | Le Devoir.

Quebec Values Charter: Politics and Strategy

A number of pieces on the politics of the Charter, starting with Graeme Hamilton of the National Post:

From the man who last September forcefully staked out an opposition position, saying the proposed charter of values would pass “over my dead body,” Mr. Couillard has been dragged onto the PQ’s preferred populist terrain.

Now, his declarations of principle are qualified. “Quebec is an open and inclusive host society,” he told reporters at one point, “but Quebecers want the values of the host society to affirm themselves and be preserved in the expression of religious freedom of all Quebecers.”

Graeme Hamilton: Anyone doubting the PQ is winning with the Values Charter only needed listen to the Liberals on Tuesday | National Post.

Lysiane Gagnon in The Globe takes a similar bent:

The Machiavellian plan of the PQ strategists is working: Take a wedge issue that will remobilize your base of core supporters, play on the widespread negative feelings toward visible immigrants (Muslims especially) while pretending to serve the noble goals of secularism and gender equity, ride on the instinctive reactions of the “real people” against the “disconnected elites” and there you are.

At first, most observers couldn’t believe the PQ would dare run an election campaign on the backs of minorities, but this is what will happen. The plan is unfolding as it should: The parliamentary commission that is currently studying the bill will continue for more than two months – long enough to keep the issue alive until early spring, when the government could call an election.

The minister responsible for the secular bill, Bernard Drainville, announced at the outset that he wouldn’t make compromises, not even with the Coalition Avenir Québec, the third party that proposes to limit the ban to teachers.

Indeed, the government doesn’t want the bill to be adopted, so that the issue can serve as an election platform plank and maybe as a pretext to call a spring election, on the grounds that the government needs a majority to pass the popular bill.

Wedge politics are the PQ’s best friend 

L’appui à la Charte ne se dément pas

See also, Chantal Hébert’s Stars aligning for Marois to call snap Quebec election: Hébert.

In other Charter related news, Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre continues to criticize the Charter (Coderre attaquera de front la Charte de la laïcité), the Liberal Party of Quebec clarifies its watered down stand (Le PLQ revendique la liberté totale de porter des signes religiousQuebec Liberal leader clarifies the party’s stance on the PQ values charter),  a comparison between Fatima Houda-Pépin and Maria Mourani, coming from different positions, both left their political parties (Houda-Pepin et Mourani, même combat).

Further commentary from the perspective of some in the GBLT community (Une laïcité ouverte… à la démagogie):

Rien n’est plus faux que de prétendre que c’est l’affirmation de la laïcité qui est une menace pour les minorités sexuelles. Nos communautés savent trop bien qu’« Étant donné la prégnance de la morale religieuse, les personnes homosexuelles sont demeurées longtemps dans l’ombre. La doctrine religieuse servait alors de caution à leur stigmatisation », comme le rappelait dès les premières lignes le rapport du Groupe mixte de travail sur l’homophobie. Et elles comprennent bien que ce sont ceux qui s’acharnent à défendre les privilèges religieux, qui s’alignent objectivement sur le programme de Stephen Harper en attaquant la laïcité, qui constituent la véritable menace à nos droits.

One of the more extreme secular testimony at the hearings, given by a woman of Tunisian origen, Rakia Fourati (La charte serait «nécessaire» pour prévenir l’intégrisme):

« Qu’il soit rouge, vert, noir, porté d’une façon élégante avec des boucles d’oreille, avec un maquillage ou sans maquillage, ça reste toujours un symbole […] qui est l’intégrisme, qui est la soumission sous toutes ses formes », a soutenu mardi la femme d’origine tunisienne devant les membres de la commission parlementaire chargée d’étudier la charte de la laïcité du gouvernement péquiste.

York University conflict courts Quebec-style backlash: Cohn | Toronto Star

Good piece by Martin Regg Cohen of The Star noting the risks of a backlash to reasonable accommodation when it fails the common sense test of “reasonable” – which York U Admin sophistry clearly did:

When the authorities align themselves with outliers who would superimpose their extreme religious views on other people’s entrenched legal rights — undermining the status of an accused in court or a female on campus — it fails the common sense smell test.

To this day, officials at York cling to their muddled thinking, rationalizing and over-intellectualizing their thought processes without thinking through the consequences. They not only let down their female students, they undermined public confidence, the sine qua non of non-discrimination.

They are their own worst enemies. By indulging tenuous claims on matters of religious faith, they undermine public faith in the ethic of tolerance.

York University conflict courts Quebec-style backlash: Cohn | Toronto Star.

PQ hits rough patch in secularism charter debate: Hébert and other commentary

Chantal Hébert on the Charter, and the impact of the brief by the Quebec Bar shredding the bill:

By all indications the PQ’s instinct is to continue to dismiss out of hand warnings that it is leading Quebec into a rights quagmire. But the evidence is that those warnings will not go away. The risk to the government is that as the debate drags on they may reverse the pro-charter momentum.

According to a Léger Marketing poll published by the Gazette this week, even as a majority of francophones support the PQ initiative, 54 per cent of them would like to have its constitutionality tested. And that was before the bar association came out swinging.

The pre-election walk in the park that the government hoped for when it launched a winter of charter debate is off to a rocky start.

PQ hits rough patch in secularism charter debate: Hébert | Toronto Star.

Don MacPherson of The Gazette on the PQ strategy:

Some voters might grow impatient with a party that seems preoccupied with a measure that they like, but which is not among their priorities.

They might conclude that the PQ is disconnected from them, and even that it is deliberately trying to distract them from other, more important issues.

No political strategy is risk-free, however, and the ban remains the PQ’s strongest plank for the next election. So the last thing it wants is for the CAQ to do what Drainville said he wants it to do.

www.montrealgazette.com/touch/story.html?id=9400570

Alain Dubuc in La Presse notes the difference between Francophone support for the Charter en principe, and the practical implementation implications (letting go government employees who do not comply with the Charter):

Sans vouloir caricaturer les partisans de cette charte, on a pu noter qu’on y retrouve un grand nombre de Québécois francophones vivant hors des grands centres urbains, encore attachés au catholicisme, qui manifestent une certaine crainte de l’immigration, encore plus quand elle est musulmane. C’est cette clientèle qui transforme ce débat en enjeu électoral. Le Parti québécois a misé, avec succès, sur un trait de caractère de la société québécoise francophone, minoritaire et très sensible à ce qu’elle perçoit comme des menaces à son identité.

Mais dans ce débat, il faut tenir compte d’un autre trait de l’âme canadienne-française: une société conviviale, peu violente, qui privilégie l’harmonie collective et la gentillesse dans les rapports interpersonnels. Il y a ici extrêmement peu de manifestations de racisme violent, pas de Ernst Zundel, pas de Front national, pas de Dieudonné, pas de Tea Party.

Ce trait de caractère, le dernier sondage Léger Marketing le mesure bien en demandant si un employé du public refusant de retirer un symbole religieux devrait perdre son emploi. À peine 35% des Québécois croient que oui et 51% s’y opposent. Chez les francophones, 40% sont faveur du congédiement et 49% sont contre.

L’arme de la gentillesse

The Show Begins: Quebec secular charter hearings set to begin

Lots of coverage on the start of the Quebec hearings and will continue to post the more interesting articles. First, some basic background (Quebec secular charter hearings set to begin – Montreal – CBC News).

More interestingly, the sequence of  witnesses appears to favour those in favour of the Charter at the beginning. Feels similar to the Bouchard-Taylor Commission, which started its hearings in the regions, with witnesses strongly against accommodation, with the tone shifting as the hearings moved to urban areas like Montreal. Not sure if this is a wise strategy (for proponents of the Charter) given that people may remember the last submissions, more negative on the Charter, more than the first series, but we shall see:

Un début à l’avantage du gouvernement

Minister Drainville states that the government can count of the support of many Liberal party members. This may well be true, but there is also a lot of opposition among sovereignist ranks, so the net effect may balance out (Drainville dit pouvoir compter sur l’appui de militants libéraux). No signs of flexibility as the PQ government continues to dig in its heels (​Drainville: l’interdiction des signes religieux n’est pas négociable).

Lisée, la Charte et les États-Unis Commentary

Good piece by Richard Hétu of La Presse, systematically taking apart the false logic and counterproductive messaging of Quebec Ministers in the New York Times, the latest of course Jean-François Lisée’ piece (Quebec’s Latest Stand). But even Hétu in noting Lisée’s comments on Cameron and Merkel’s comments on multiculturalism is unaware of just how much both have moved in terms of practical policies to improve integration (Baroness Warsi’s ongoing engagement with Muslim and other communities, Merkel’s efforts with the Turkish community and opening up dual citizenship):

Il y a lieu de se demander si le ministre québécois n\’a pas brouillé son propre message dans sa plus récente intervention américaine. Après tout, aux États-Unis, le rejet du multiculturalisme est aujourd\’hui surtout associé à la droite populiste, comme l\’a exprimé récemment Andrea Tantaros, commentatrice de la chaîne Fox News.

«Les élites croient au multiculturalisme, elles croient en la diversité. Le Tea Party croit au patriotisme», a-t-elle dit.

Lisée, la Charte et les États-Unis | Richard Hétu, Collaboration spéciale | États-Unis.

In English language media, Graeme Hamilton of the National Post makes similar points in PQ minister twists facts to defend Values Charter and The Toronto Star has an overview of some of the recent developments (Parliamentary hearings on Quebec’s values charter could ignite secularism nationwide, PQ says). Don Macpherson of The Gazette notes correctly that the PQ is practising Dog-whistle politics.

Charter fuels stereotyping, tension: poll

More on the Charter as the hearings begin. First, the latest poll showing the same divisions of support between francophones and non-francophones. More interesting is the impact of the proposed Charter:

Fifty-three per cent of people polled, including 49 per cent of francophones and 69 per cent of people from other linguistic groups — said they believed relations between communities have already deteriorated since the debate over the charter of values began.

Forty-nine per cent of people polled said they believe adoption of the charter will give rise to civil disobedience in public institutions.

Roughly half of those polled said they believe there has already been an increase in stereotyping against religious minorities. Fifty-seven per cent of people polled — including 80 per cent of non-francophones — said they believe Quebec’s Jews, Muslims and Sikhs should have an equal say to other groups in discussions about the charter.

Support for the charter was higher among manual labourers, retired people and people with incomes of $60,000 to $100,000 than it was for young adults, students and homemakers.

Charter fuels stereotyping, tension: poll.

A good overview of organizations in favour and opposing the Charter, and the related politics and political strategy by Chantal Hébert of The Star:

Get ready for Quebec values charter debate replay: Hébert

La démagogie au pouvoir | Gérard Bouchard

The strongest condemnation of the Quebec Charter of Values to date, by Gérard Bouchard. Says it all:

Pour ce qui est de la connaissance du terrain, on s’en remet aux perceptions courantes plutôt qu’aux études rigoureuses. En matière de suppression des droits, on s’appuie sur le précédent créé par trois ou quatre pays ou régions d’Europe en faisant abstraction de toutes les démocraties du monde qui ont choisi de respecter les libertés, y compris en Europe même. Et on évite soigneusement de parler des traités de droit internationaux auxquels le Québec est assujetti.

Il fallait que tout cela survienne dans le grand parti que fut celui de René Lévesque, si soucieux des droits et de la démocratie, si attaché à la transparence, et dont l’héritage a été fidèlement perpétué par des générations de politiciens et politiciennes, jusqu’à ce qu’il soit perverti par nos actuels dirigeants. C’est triste.

La démagogie au pouvoir | Gérard Bouchard | Votre opinion.

An illustration of demagoguery in action see this op-ed by Jean-François Lisée, Quebec minister for the Montreal area and for international affairs. As always, striking that the model referred to is always European, rather than North American, despite Europe largely failing at integration, and the usual caricature of multiculturalism:

Quebec’s Latest Stand

As well as a further illustration of the absence of evidence-based policy and program work, no studies on the potential impact on the education sector:

Charte: Québec ignore l’avis d’un comité du milieu de l’éducation

Freedom of conscience and the Charter of Quebec Values » Institute for Research on Public Policy

Good piece by Jocelyn Maclure of Université de Laval on the Charter and freedom of conscience:

The analogy with political symbols does not succeed in justifying restrictions on freedom of religion or equal access to job opportunities in the public and parapublic sectors. Our civil and political rights safeguard our basic political interests, while freedom of conscience and religion protects the religious and secular convictions and commitments that endow human life with meaning. We can rightly be proud that our democratic institutions properly uphold both these rights and freedoms.

Freedom of conscience and the Charter of Quebec Values » Institute for Research on Public Policy.