New Atheists are wrong about Islam. Here’s how data proves it – Salon.com
2015/02/04 2 Comments
Interesting study by Steven Fish of Berkeley on his study and book, Are Muslims Distinctive?: A Look at the Evidence, finding less difference between Muslims and others than commonly believed:
I [Fish] found that Muslims in general are less distinctive than many of us think. In many ways there is really very little difference between Muslims and everybody else. Sometimes I use “everybody else” as the reference category, and sometimes I use Christians in particular, because Christianity and Islam are by far the world’s biggest faith traditions…
Even in some areas in which we expect … I didn’t find a great deal of difference. For example, many people think that Muslims are really intent on fusing religious and political authority, that there’s really no room in Islamic thinking for independent civic sphere that is not run by religious authorities, and in which religious authority and doctrine predominate, meaning there’s little room for an independent civil society and public sphere. Well, I found in this survey data that … Muslims and Christians don’t differ very much on this question, and that most Muslims, once one controls for everything that needs to be controlled for in these statistical analyses, actually do not want to fuse religious and political authority…
Some, of course, do. Some absolutely do. But some Christians do as well … There are many American Christians who are skeptical about dividing church and state rigorously. That’s true for many Muslims as well. But a majority of both Christians and Muslims seem to embrace at least some separation of sacred and secular in politics. That’s one finding that was perhaps surprising and also showed that Muslims are less distinctive than we might think.
Another finding that showed that Muslims were less distinctive than we might think looked at … membership in organizations, all kinds of things that we would use to actually measure social capital — interpersonal trust, for example. We find there that there really is little or no difference between those Muslims and everyone else.
There’s some questions by which I did find evidence of Muslim distinctiveness. For example, gender inequality; I find in the data that there are big problems in the Muslim world relative to other regions, and among Muslims relative to people of other faiths when it comes to gender inequality. It seems that there are lower workforce participation ratios — that is, female-to-male and earned-income ratios — among Muslims than among non-Muslims, generally speaking, which means that women tend to work less and earn less than men do in Muslim countries to a greater extent than they do elsewhere. I also find other evidence of gender discrimination …
Generally speaking, women should outlive men by several years. I found that that gap is somewhat smaller in predominantly Muslim societies, which is a red flag and shows that perhaps there are gender discrimination problems that run more deeply than in predominantly non-Muslim societies.
New Atheists are wrong about Islam. Here’s how data proves it – Salon.com.

I’m not sure it’s mostly or exclusively “New Atheists” who think Muslims are “different” so I find the title questionable.
I think perhaps the ‘net’ has been cast too wide. Just as Christianity and Judaism contain fundamentalist and fanatical sects, so does Islam. Islam however seems to contain more of them and, as a religion, to generate a very high number of individuals and movements committed to terror and violence. Also, Islam is quite visibly involved in many places in a Shia-Sunni Civil War of extraordinary brutality. Why is that? Does it have nothing to do with the history and the doctrines of the faith? Or is it to be explained by other factors? The fact that most Muslims (I suspect this would differ vastly from country to country, region to region, and sub-sect to sub-sect), believe, more or less, in the separation of Church and State, does not exclude the fact that some Islamic groups, also present in Canada for example, fervently and most definitely do not believe in the separation of Church and State.
The fact that women are disadvantaged seemingly across the spectrum of Islam is in itself and by itself a huge difference with vast implications.
Also, to my ear, the author’s command of grammar seems a bit shaky.
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